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Characters with Sub Ally Support Skills

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Kirostyle (talkcontribs)

Hello there! I made a page compiling Characters with Sub Ally Support Skills because the auto-generated category page one on the wiki was not detailed enough. It only lists the characters and not the skills themselves for people to easily look through. It is also missing some sorting information. It keeps re-merging with the auto-generated category page though. I wanted to see if there was a way my page could be used to replace that one. Thanks!

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

The content of the pages has been removed because description contained what linked support skills already had inside, except that since it was written separately, it wouldn't update alongside info already on character's page. That could in turn sooner or later cause information discrepancy.
I also don't think that evokers / crest sort options were necessary. I wouldn't mind if they were included after others agreed to them but it doesn't look like you previously asked any of the admins how should that page look like.
I also agree that it'd be nice if the category page was a bit more detailed and included the skill category is meant to reference but if you wanted to work on it anyhow, you should ask before for any opinions etc.

Kirostyle (talkcontribs)

I would have directly linked the descriptions myself, but I did not know what the coding looked like for that and was hoping for someone else with the knowledge to do so. That would also not include the notes, however. That is why some of the descriptions were touched up, especially for passives that contain both frontline and backline components. I understand that it would not automatically update, but the category page was also incorrect as well because people have not been tagging all the characters with backline passives anyways, which I then went to subsequently fix a few. It would be nice if that page could display the text for the passives too, but some characters have their backline passive as skill 1 or skill 2, so it probably wouldn't be able to sort it that way right now.

Other skill resource pages also do not automatically update, such as the pages for Veil, Dispel, Clear, etc. and yet they are valuable pages for compiling information. (I have been updating them with missing characters lately.) My page also includes notes and lets people easily skim through support skills for easy reference, especially around Guild Wars and Proving Grounds. I spent a couple hours making this for my crew and others. I ask that you reconsider.

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

You already linked the skills via CharacterSupportSkill template.

The difference between other mentioned pages and support skill page is that the latter is a category page. It will include more characters if the category is added to the character page. In the best case scenario, it'd also add the newly added character's support skill to the table. Whatever that is possible or not with the currently available tools is not something I know.

And it is not me who you should be asking for anything, I recommend you join the wiki discord and address this issue there (or alternatively use wiki's talk pages to ask one of the admins - User_talk:AdlaiT, but mind that getting a reply this way might take longer).
Another option would be to put it on your userpage User:Kirostyle. Then you'd be free to create it exactly how you want.

Kirostyle (talkcontribs)

Linking them with the support skills template does not make it able to be CTRl+F'd and requires you to scroll over each one individually, which is inconvenient. That is why I chose to make a separate column.

Sorry, I was under the assumption you were an admin. I did not know there was a Wiki discord for this. I have created pages in the past without any troubles, so I assumed that it would be fine. I will look into this. Thank you.

AdlaiT (talkcontribs)

I want to be very clear that Hakazumi is not a wiki admin nor a wiki moderator. They should not have removed the contents the page since they are not in any position of authority to decide either way.

--AdlaiT (talk) - Wiki Admin 09:33, 12 January 2020 (CET)