Theoretical Grid Building Guide
Last Update: July 29, 2023
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This guide serves as a theoretical primer on the logic used to build weapon grids. The guide will go through all you need to know to build your own grids from scratch instead of just copying other premade grids.
Warning, please read me before continuing.
This guide is designed to show theory, and in order to do so, examples will have to be provided. There is no guarantee that the grids shown here are up to date-- or even good in the first place. Any grids shown are examples to demonstrate concepts only and should not be taken at face value.
This guide is designed for players who are already fairly invested in the game and whose grids are mostly copied from friends or other sources without much understanding of what makes them tick. This guide, therefore, intends to help readers understand the theory that informs grid building and get them up to speed as to why the grids they're using look like that, how to improve them, and how to make their own.
- If you're a new player, start with Basic Grids.
- For examples of grids for more progressed players, go to Advanced Grids.
- For a list of which weapons are worth to farm, check my What to Farm Guide.
It's worth noting that no man is an island and no grid is built in isolation. Grids do not have copyright protections, and "grid stealing" is an accepted (and even encouraged) practice in the Granblue Fantasy community. Not only that, but most grids are just copies of other grids designed for similar situations with some minor adaptations for the new one. You rarely have to build anything from scratch, so go ahead and reference as many wiki examples and YouTube showcases as you want.
- 1 Theoretical Grid Building Guide
- 1.1 Introduction
- 1.2 Common Misconceptions
- 1.3 Building With A Purpose
- 1.4 Modifiers and You
- 1.5 Critical Hits
- 1.6 Beyond Raw Damage
- 1.7 Putting it All Together
- 1.8 Closing Notes
- 1.9 Acknowledgements
- 1.10 Changelog
Before we start, I'd like to clear up some common misconceptions that tend to trip up fledgling players, so we can go in with a clean slate.
There Is No General Content
Unlike other games in the same genre, you will not get far in Granblue Fantasy with only one team per element. The high variety of options for team building means that a lot of buildcraft is open for optimizing toward different goals, and those goals tend to be at odds with each other.
If you've ever hung around any sort of community that can help new or fledgling players, you've probably heard something among the lines of "help me make a grid for general content" - and also the sour reaction to the question.
The point is, well, there is no general content. There is no one grid per element that will fare well in every situation you'll run into. When you make a grid, you should do so with some purpose in mind for where you'll use it. We'll delve into types of content later, but here's some examples of things that you may want to consider:
- The length of the fight - shorter fights might want to bring timed weapons like Rise of the Beasts. , whereas longer ones might enjoy progression weapons such as from
- The enemy's damage output - if the boss you're fighting can hit really hard, you may have to pack additional HP weapons vs just optimizing for damage, whereas putting defensive weapons in a grid that you use for a weaker boss is redundant and will just make the kills take longer.
- Specific mechanics or gimmicks, such as, for example, Ra's multiple charge attack based Omens. For a Ra team, you'd want to bring Charge Attack supporting weapons such as , or , which would otherwise be weak in setups that don't rely on charge attack damage.
Some important notes to keep in mind:
- You only need enough HP to not die!
- Doesn't matter if you kill the boss with 1% of your HP left or 100%, it's dead either way.
- Packing additional HP for situations where the boss doesn't hit hard is just going to make the kill slower for no noticeable benefit.
- You don't always have to optimize, especially if you don't think you'll be fighting a boss often, but it's good to if you intend to do it a lot.
- Ultimately, building teams for specific bosses is an effort in saving you time. The less time you spend on each boss, the more time you have to do other things. How far you want to go with that is entirely up to you.
The Tier List Kinda Sucks
The Character Tier List page is very often misunderstood. With a game as complex as Granblue Fantasy, you can't simply take a character out of context and assign a number to it and have that number fully explain its power level.
Even the far more useful Grades sub-page of the tier list is not something that should be fully relied upon, as the values given there are wildly reductive of the different types of content the game contains. Beyond that, older characters in the list are rarely updated to reflect the current metagame, or whatever new content or strategies have emerged since.
At the time of writing, the following hold true in the GameWith tier list:
- SUBHL setups, and farming setups in Seofon HL, so this grade does not reflect his usability.
is currently a 9.9, with an A in High Difficulty. Wilnas is irreplaceable for the best Fire
- Furthermore, Wilnas had previously been at 9.5 with recent additions such as wildly improving his damage potential. In a vacuum, the 9.9 rating is reductive, as without having Michael, a player can not make full use of him.
- SUBHL setup in the game with no useable substitute. (To my knowledge. You can watch the setup here)
is rated B in High Difficulty (Kamigame gives him a D too), which was a valid assessment at his release. However, after the release of and , Mugen has become an irreplaceable component of the fastest
- However, even if Mugen was updated to a higher rating in High Difficulty, this doesn't fully reflect the reality that two other limited characters, as well as a Primal grid with multiple are required to actually make use of him, so the rating would still be dubious.
- Dark Rapture (Hard). The SS rating is justified for how incredibly powerful they are in that situation, but does not show the full picture that they're only "good" for lower-difficulty raids. have an SS rating for Full Auto which is also very reductive as their damage output is lacking, and their unique skills are only properly applicable to high-end Full Auto for difficult raids such as
In short, while the Tier List is a reasonable way to quickly evaluate if a character you just got is useful, avoid relying on it too much. The game is far too complex to be reduced to numbers and letters. The grades page in particular can not fully encapsulate the depth of a character's usability nor its synergies. The same character can be useless or amazing even within the same category depending on the content and its surroundings.
Remember, there is no general content, so it follows that there are no general ratings either.
Damage Prediction is Unreliable
For multiple reasons, this prediction is highly inaccurate and should not be fully relied upon.
- The predictor shows only the amount of damage estimated for your main character, against a base defense enemy, without any buffs or debuffs for either party.
- Critical hit damage is not accounted for unless you achieve an outright 100% total crit rate. It doesn't matter if you have 99% crit; if it is less than 100%, it will not be reflected in the damage prediction.
- The left predictor never accounts for critical hit despite element-less enemies being able to receive critical hits.
- As such, when using the predictor, if you are building a setup with less than 100% critical hit, you will have to consider for it manually.
As for any weapons that affect different units differently (such as race restrictions for Bahamut Weapons or proficiency restrictions for Ultima Weapons), know that their effect on the prediction will only be seen if the change affects the main character, so be careful of seeing a really large number when equipping, for example, an Ultima Weapon that no other member of your party benefits from.
Aside from those cases, the predictor is a very useful tool for quickly gauging whether to swap out weapons or not. Additional context and parameters can be viewed and adjusted by clicking the (i) icon such as your party's HP or number of turns passed.
As long as you're aware of its limitations, the predictor allows you to quickly iterate on damage focused setups without getting in a fight.
The Icons Lie
Intuition would tell you that the icon on the right would likely be 3 times as powerful as the icon on the left-- or at least significantly stronger.
When looking at the Weapon Skills page, we see a different story. At Skill Level 15, the "small" skill provides a 12% boost, whereas the "big" skill provides an 18% boost. The same is true for other skills such as HP Up.
While when boosted by a summon, this different is very significant, it's not as large as the iconography implies. This is mostly common knowledge, but it does tend to trip up new players. Icons are good to quickly compare two different weapons with a similar skill, but the iconography can be misleading in terms of indicating the actual magnitude of difference between them.
Time is Relative
In nearly all aspects of life, the concept of speed typically refers to how long it takes you to complete a task. In a game as reliant on ping as Granblue Fantasy, however, raw time is not an accurate metric to determine how efficient something is when comparing to other players.
You are welcome and encouraged to use kill time as a measure of your own personal speed, but when it comes to sharing setups, there's several standard metrics used to quickly broadcast the efficiency of your build:
- Turn Count
- Very straightforward. Everything else being equal, the more turns you take, the slower you're being
- Turn count is not the be-all-end-all of optimization. Ultimately, a turn is just a game action. If your turns are slow, you're still slow
- Button Count
- A "button" is a skill press or a summon call
- Because you can only take one action at a time in Granblue, the more actions you take, the more time you spend waiting on the game to let you take the next one
- In some cases, players will separate skill button presses from summon calls, so you may see something like "3b1s" to indicate "3 skills, 1 summon"
- Chain Count
- Every action in Granblue has an associated "lockout" value. Lockout is the "⏳ Waiting..." widget you see sometimes when going really fast
- While in Lockout, you can queue up actions, but none will be taken until the waiting time ends (except using Potions for some reason)
- Chain Bursts, or just Chains, which happen when you perform two or more Charge Attacks in one turn, are the source of the highest lockout in the game. This lockout is higher the larger the Chain Burst is
- Lockout persists between battles, so when going really fast, your goal becomes minimizing lockout which tends to result in minimizing Chains
Building With A Purpose
Before you can begin making a new grid, you need to know what you're trying to accomplish. At the end of the day, weapon grids are tools to get a job done. That job can be to kill a given raid safely, to reach a Blue Chest threshold, to help carry a high difficulty raid team, etc.
In real life, we don't always use the same tool for every job. You wouldn't use a hammer to cook food. In the same vein, your grids should be built in service of the purpose they're intended to fulfill. Establish the objective first, then assemble the tools-- not the other way around.
And to really hammer it home - there is no general content, nor are there general grids.
With that spiel out of the way, let's look at some basic archetypes of grids you may wish to build.
45m Blue Chest
In my humble opinion, having a team that can quickly and efficiently reach 45,000,000 damage in each element is the first big goal every midgame Granblue Fantasy player should strive for. To understand why exactly this HP threshold is important, we need to look at how drops are distributed in the Regalia and Ennead series of raids.
Let's start by looking at the loot table for Shiva - specifically the Blue Chest table:
We can derive a few things from this:
- The weapons we want to get from this boss are in this chest.
- We need to acquire 380,000 honors, or deal 38,000,000 damage, to guarantee the chest will appear.
- Assuming you're not the host, and the raid doesn't stall, there's no reason to ever deal more than 38m damage.
- Ideally, we want to do this quickly so we don't burn our lives away in the Shiva mines.
Most Impossible bosses that get heavily farmed feature this mechanic, forcing players to contribute to the raid a bit. Understanding how much damage you have to deal to get a Blue Chest will help you tune your teams and grids to reach the desired values as fast as possible so that you can get your weapon drops equally fast.
The reason I recommend targeting the 45m threshold is because of Ennead raids such as Atum. To compensate for their mechanic, Enneads will have a slightly higher Blue Chest threshold. This value will change from raid to raid as some have more HP than others, but 45m is a fairly clean and safe value to aim for.
You can test your 45m teams using the Old Lignoid or Used Lignoid of the respective element in Trial Battles.
While there are many ways one can build a team that can quickly reach 45m damage, I will personally recommend the tried and trueCharge Attack burst-- not because it's the most efficient in any regard, but because it's very accessible, and most players can assemble one with some elbow grease. By the time you can start building faster teams, you probably won't be spending your days in the M2 mines anyway.
Relic Buster'sand combo can immediately set your team up for a 4-chain charge attack. By itself, this will not be able to reach 45m in most situations, so additional buttons must be pressed.
At this point, what else you will need to do will depend on what you have available. You should fit your team with high CA-damage characters (e.g.), or characters with additional CA skill damage (e.g. ). If available, my go-to pick is calling , as that alone adds over 9 million damage and makes further attacks hit harder. Other great options include any sources of (e.g. 's ), (e.g. 's ), or just straight up large damage skills.
You can find a list of Unworldly C.A. sources at Umikin's List.
Before you go into a raid, check what the Blue Chest value is and focus on that. Don't fret if your first attempt takes quite a few buttons, chains, or even turns to get there. Ultimately, what matters is that you can get the Blue Chest consistently and fast enough that you're not bottlenecked in progression by your own speed. As you move further into the game and acquire better weapons and characters, you'll slowly be able to start shaving off buttons.
Lastly, it's worth noting that not all raids have Blue Chest. In particular, the Malice/Menace Series (e.g. Anima-Animus Core) do not. In those situations, except for the MVP chest, as long as you deal any damage your drop rate is equal. For raids where your desired drop is in the Gold Chests, you may wish to bring additional drop rate support instead, such as , summons, in the backrow, and Journey Drops.
This category is essentially the "Just Kill The Boss" one. When most people look to create a team, this is what they tend to be looking for. Even if not necessarily for solo kills, you want teams that can do a significant amount of the boss's HP so you can carry your own hosts if not many other people show up.
This is the point where the most buildcraft happens and where you're allowed to try all sorts of different strategies. Ultimately, though, we want setups that can put out high DPSDamage Per Second without dying.
Some basic rules for building FA teams:
- Understand what the boss does - and build with that in mind.
- A boss with low mechanical complexity such as Shiva has more space to bring low-HP teams that focus on damage.
- A boss notorious for hitting really hard such as Bennu might require a different approach with a more balanced team.
- Bosses with mechanics will need you to build around them, such as taking a charge-attack focused party to Osiris.
- Remember, you only need enough HP to not die.
- Sure, you can take your super bulky charge-attack based Ra team to Grimnir, and chances are it'll work, but since Grimnir doesn't hit nearly as hard, you'd likely be wasting time by not bringing a more damage-centric setup.
24 Million is the amount of health the Extreme+ enemy in Guild War has. It's also just a generally safe value to aim for (if not a bit lower) for use in story event farming or in Replicard Sandbox 5 bar enemies to farm Astras and Ideans.
Given the HP threshold we are trying to reach is so low, and the amount of fights we'll be plowing through is so large, optimization is essential here to not burn your days away on trivial content. The first step of optimizing OTK is to trim the button count as low as possible and then to minimize the lockout induced by the attack so that we don't have to wait for the next fight.
Helpful tools for optimizing this type of setup include "Freyr Key"Colloquially called that due to providing the same buffs does., for the third slot in Dark Opus Weapons) for the very powerful buffs provided. Care should be taken when using both at the same time as Freyr Key provides a dodge buff which can work against Belial's counters.for the counterattack damage and (aka.
What follows is a non-exhaustive progression of OTK builds for most players:
- 2b4c2 Buttons, 4 Chains - We can start with the Relic Buster Skill 1 + Skill 2 combo described in the 45m section. Lower level players may have to press an additional button or two to reach the threshold. The four charge attacks alongside the Chain Burst should be enough to kill the boss.
- Characters with innate or equivalent, such as or , can push this up to a higher chain count. This induces additional lockout, so it should only be done if no better option can be achieved.
- 1b4c1 Button, 4 Chains - Utilizing two summons or equivalent or series. allows a team to start at 90% charge bar. The remaining 10% can be filled using a skill such as or on the main character to allow for a full chain with only one button.
- Because two Huanglongs are used as the Main and Support summons, the grid building here is drastically different as you won't be able to rely on weapon skill boosting summons.
- 0b3c0 Button, 3 Chains - This setup is similar to 1b4c, but using an Eternal as the character in the second slot. If you have every Eternal recruited, the will provide 10% additional charge bar to your Eternals at the start of battle, which allows for 3 charge attacks without any button presses.
- If a character that gives 40% Charge Bar at the start of battle such as is available, a 0b4c setup can be made using a single Huanglong summon instead, allowing for zero-button builds with lower requirements but with higher lockout.
- 0b0c0 Button, 0 Chains - The "just attack" build - no charge attacks included. This type of setup tends to make use of characters with guaranteed Triple Attack, as well as automatic skill or counter damage such as . This is generally a tall task for most elements and may be impossible without ideal character availability.
- Due to a quirk in how lockout is calculated, 0b1c is technically less lockout than 0b0c because charge attack lockout is calculated based on chains, and one single charge attack does not create a chain. This is relevant for characters that start the battle at 100% charge bar such as .
- havers may want to opt for a setup that calls Bubs and then immediately attacks - the call can take a bit, but this is generally much easier to pull off and produces very low lockout overall. (Tip: you can use a skin over Bubs to make the animation faster - the fastest animations are and , in order)
- Further Optimization - After 0b0c is accomplished, some other minor optimizations can be done to ensure you get the most out of your build:
- Building a setup that consistently kills without the boss attacking at all because boss attacks add a slight additional lockout.
- Using as your main and/or friend summons will allow you to get additional host materials in Guild War and story events as well as more desirable drops in Sandbox.
- Ultimately, these upgrades are very high end, and often require incredibly powerful builds. The holy grail is a double Kaguya setup with no enemy action, which requires either or .
Many other configurations are possible depending on what you have available. I've seen many uses of 0b2c or even 1b0c to minimize lockout. Don't let the listing above be a strict progression, and try to work out the best you can do with what you have.
Additional information on OTK setups and optimization can be found in Inabarama's Page.
As a curiosity, the fastest possible OTK is a singular skill press - as a skill press induces the lowest possible lockout. This was first achieved in the 2023 Fire Guild War using set the game's servers on fireGranblue servers crashed during prelims in this Guild War, causing the event to have to be delayed by one day.which figuratively
131 Million is the amount of health the Nightmare Lv.95 enemy in Guild War has. Setups for this have a lot more flexibility, and the way you build them will vastly depend on your element and character picks.
Aside from Guild War use, the 100-150m damage mark is a good point to aim for when it comes to just having a setup handy for bursting down raids like the Six Dragons or UBHL.
While it is beyond scope for this guide, it's also worth mentioning the 288 Million threshold for Nightmare Lv.150, but this value is rarely relevant outside of Guild War.
At this point, we enter the realm of fully manual play in high end racing or high difficulty raids.
The three main pillars of endgame content are as follows:
- High Difficulty raiding - namely SUBHL at the time of writing.
- GOHL, Akasha or PBHL as fast as possible. farming - where you set up a team that can reach Blue Chest thresholds in
- Diaspora, with setups that can push out 4 million honors as fast as possible for potential sand drops. farming in Revans series raids, such as
These situations all require specific builds to keep up with the difficult enemies or competitive nature of the gameplay, so generic hints aren't particularly helpful here.
Modifiers and You
Introduction to Modifiers
Weapon Skill Types and how to make use of them is potentially the most important topic in grid building theory. Colloquially, these are called Modifiers, or "Mods." You may also hear the term "Frame" to signify a particular source of a modifier-- more on this later.
Furthermore, within each family, there are multiple different types of mods - the most common ones being Might, Stamina, and Enmity.
- Might always provides a static amount of attack up.
- Stamina provides higher attack up the higher your current HP is relative to your max HP.
- Enmity works like Stamina, but scales with how low it is.
- Other additional modifiers exist, but these are the most common.
Please know that:
- The term "Omega" is a debated bit of localization. When referring to Omega skills, nearly all players will use the original term "Magna." This guide will continue to use Omega as per wiki style guides, but in colloquial use, you will rarely hear "Omega."
- The icons can lie. While looking at these icons shows you their respective mods, some skills do not have descriptive icons. When in doubt, consult the wiki pages for the weapons you're curious about.
Omega/Magna skills are always boosted by their respective summons - e.g. the Stormwyrm's Might II skill inwill be 140% stronger if you're using a maxed out summon, and 280% stronger with two. That's a total of 380% when you add up the original 100%.
Normal skills are a bit more complex. In order to determine whether a Normal skill is boosted by its summon, you have to look at the skill's name. Let's useas an example. A 5★ Hades reads as follows:
150% boost to Dark's, Hatred's, and Oblivion's weapon skills.
However, these skills are substantially different. The skill present in Fediel's Spine is called Eclipse's Stamina whereas the one on Fallen Sword is called Hatred's Stamina. If we look at Hades' description above, only Hatred is boosted, not Eclipse. While both of these weapons provide the same "Normal Stamina" mod, the Stamina in Fallen Sword would be stronger when Hades summons are present, but Fediel's Spine comes out on top when they're not.
We call skills that are boosted by summons Boosted Skills, and Unboosted Skills refers to those that aren't eligible for any summon boost. Except for an irrelevant meme case, EX skills are always unboosted.
Because of how powerful summon boosting is, all non-veteran players are recommended to use the respective Omega/Magna summons and build around them for all their grids. Even if you have the correct summon, the options for F2P farmable boosted Normal weapons in most elements leaves much to be desired, so Normal Summon-based Grids (colloquially referred to as Primal Grids or Optimus Grids) are left for already familiarized players and utilize multiple gacha weapons (often of the Grand Series).
Let's consider the following example grid and assume that this grid is built for doubleusage:
|Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK||Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK||Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK|
|Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK||Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK||Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK|
|Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK||Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK||Stormwyrm's Might IIBig boost to wind allies' ATK||Raphael's Blessing IIAmplify Wind allies' damage against Earth foes by 20%. Wind's MajestySmall boost to wind allies' ATK and max HP|
This might, in theory, look reasonable. We got a Seraphic Weapon in there to boost our damage against Earth enemies, and the at Skill Level 20 is the weapon that has the biggest attack boost available - a whole 20% looking at the Weapon Skills table. With two Tiamat Omegas boosting us 280%, that 20% goes up to 76% - and with nine fists in the grid (putting the Seraphic aside as it'll always be in the grid for on-element fights) that's a whopping 684% total!!!
Well... not quite.
This is the part where the different mods come in play. In short, two different mods will stack multiplicatively, whereas two of the same mod stack additively. This might be hard to wrap your head around initially, so let's look at some examples.
For these examples, assume once again double.
Tiamat Gauntlet Omega SL20 + Tiamat Gauntlet Omega SL20
As previously stated, under double Tiamat Omega, each of these provides a nice 76% attack up. As both weapons provide the Omega Might mod, we add them together.
Our result is therefore:
- 76% + 76%
- = 152%
Tiamat Gauntlet Omega SL20 x5
The same logic as the previous example applies - except this time we add all five together. Our result is therefore:
- 76% + 76% + 76% + 76% + 76%
- = 76% x 5
- = 380%
Info: Percentage Multiplication
In the next section, we'll be multiplying two percentages by each other. If you just care about the theory, and not the math, feel free to skip to it.
It's important to know that in this context, a 20% value is to be applied as "20% more", and not just "20%". This essentially means that, for multiplication purposes, the Tiamat Gauntlet Omega, with its 76% Might, will be shown as 176%, or more accurately, 1.76 - we do this because the base value is always 100% of your attack, the default, so "76% more" would be 176%.
For the purposes of multiplication, say we're multiplying "50% more" by "30% more", you'd represent the values as 150% and 130%, as such:
- ("50% more") x ("30% more")
- = 150% x 130%
- = 1.5 * 1.3
- = 1.95
- = "95% more"
Tiamat Gauntlet Omega SL20 + Last Storm Harp SL15
Let's bring in something different. Theonly goes up to SL15 due to not having a 5★ uncap available, so we'll work with that.
At SL15, from the Weapon Skills table, and at 100% HP, the Last Storm Harp provides an 11.98% boost. Multiplied by our Summon Boost of 380%, this goes up to roughly 45.5%.
However, Last Storm Harp provides Omega Stamina, which is different from the Tiamat Gauntlet Omega's Omega Might. When we have two different mods like this, we multiply them together, as such:
- <total omega stamina> x <total omega might>
- = 145.5% x 176%
- = 256%
using the multiplication logic from the previous section
If you look back to the 2x Tiamat Gauntlet Omega example, despite the raw numbers being larger, it only added up to 152%. This demonstrates why you don't want to add too many weapons of the same mod type together-- and that different types of mods mix much better than a lot of the same. Therefore, when making a grid, strive to include different types of mods.
Tiamat Gauntlet Omega SL20 + Last Storm Harp SL15 + Innocent Love SL20
We already know from the previous examples the values of the first two weapons. Looking at the Weapon Skills table, we can see that the unboosted SL20 provides a 37.0% EX Might mod.
Similarly to the previous example, this is a new mod in our mix, so we multiply it with the other ones:
- <total omega stam> x <total omega might> x <total ex might>
- = 145.5% x 176% x 137%
- = 350%
using the same multiplication logic as before, just with three components
And just like that, in only three weapon slots, we've nearly got the same amount of boost as that five Tiamat Gauntlet Omega setup over there. Cool, right?
Tiamat Gauntlet Omega SL20 x3 + Last Storm Harp SL15 + Innocent Love SL20
Purely out of curiosity, let's add two more Tiamat Gauntlet Omegas, to see how much better adding two other mods is compared to our 5x setup.
The math for this remains the same as our previous setup, except that Omega Might is now provided by various weapons:
- Total Omega Might = 76% + 76% + 76%
- = 76% x 3
- = 228%
"228% more" can be represented as 328% when we add the base 100%.
- <total omega stam> x <total omega might> x <total ex might>
- = 145.5% x 328% x 137%
- = 653%
A massive improvement from our measly 380%, right? Imagine what we could do if we swapped in even more different mods.
This is why you'll see every grid use a variety of different weapons-- even some not boosted by the summon! Furthermore, this is exactly why weapons that bring multiple mods by themselves tend to be highly popular - namely classics such asor .
Sometimes, if you add a weapon with a new mod whose raw value is weak enough, you might be better off adding another of a mod you already have. Multiplication might grow bigger than addition, but if you multiply by something really small, well, you're not going too far. Use the damage predictor to try and figure out what's the best for your situation!
Mod and Frame Caps
Since this is Granblue Fantasy, nothing is simple. First off, some mods have a cap on how much of them you can have in your grid - these values can be found on the Weapon Skill Caps Table.
While for most red mods (middle column), it's unlikely you'll ever reach these, it's not that difficult to add enough of a yellow mod (left column) to your grid that you'll end up with a value higher than its cap. To verify if you're overcapping, you can either do the math yourself, or check on the predictor's "Weapon Skill Boosts" tab for numbers that appear in orange, as such:
In this grid, "DMG Cap" is maxed out, so adding additional weapons that provide it would have no effect. Meanwhile, "C.A. Supp." is not, so it's still open for more weapons of the type.
Looking at the table, you might notice the following pairs of entries:
These are special cases - they are an example of two "Frames" that provide the same mod. A source of a mod is referred to as a Frame. In this case, "EX Might" and "EX Might Sp." are two different frames.
"EX Might" and "EX Might Sp." provide the same "EX Might" mod, so you add them together, but "EX Might Sp." is capped at 80%, whereas "EX Might" does not have a cap. The same is true for the type "DMG Cap" types: they add together for your total grid damage cap but are provided by different weapons and have separate caps. If you cap both, you can have up to 40% total grid damage cap.
Sometimes, a frame is restricted to only one instance of it - this is often the case with several skills provided by Dark Opus and Astral Weapons, for example:
's Skill Damage Cap mod is on the same frame as with a and do not stack at all. Having two in your grid will only result in 50% up.
- also provides the Skill Damage Cap mod but on a different frame. Having one plus one of the aforementioned weapons in your grid adds up to 70%.
- Unfortunately, the game itself is incredibly opaque when it comes to this type of information. Generally, the best way to know where something fits is to look at its wiki page.
Critical Hits in Granblue Fantasy are a fairly complex topic on their own. Multiple sources of Critical Hit can apply separately, and each modify your damage by different values. Since this guide is mainly dedicated to the theory of grid building, we'll be focusing on Critical Hit rate as provided by the weapons in your Grid.
Critical Hit (often shortened to just "Crit") is a unique mod within the grid. All instances of Critical Hit are added together no matter what family they fall into. 70% "Omega Critical Hit" + 10% "Normal Critical Hit" is 80%, not 87%.
When attacking an enemy that has no element or that you have elemental advantage against (e.g. Water character vs Fire enemy), each hit will roll for Critical Hit once for each of your sources. Additional sources usually come from character skills, but for this calculation, the entire grid is one source. If the damage predictor shows 80% critical hit, then 80% of hits will be Critical. Grid-based Critical Hits deal 50% more damage.
The reason this is important is because we can treat the 50% more damage from a Critical Hit as a "hidden mod" in our grid. If we can get it to 100% (or close enough to 100% that the difference is negligible), we're essentially adding another +50% mod to the grid. We've seen from the previous section that adding unique mods is very powerful, which makes Crit based grids highly popular and accessible.
Critical Hit is capped at 100% - having a total that's any higher provides zero benefit.
We want to add up enough of the Critical Hit mod that we reach 100%, so let's look at the Critical Hit Table. Below are some example popular configurations for Crit grids. This table is non-exhaustive, and other alternative and niche configurations also exist, but I chose to show off only the main ones for the sake of brevity.
Just because something has Crit on it doesn't immediately make it a viable option! For example, is almost never seen compared to 4x which sees a lot of use despite both providing the same amount of Crit. Crit aside, AES is a weapon that provides two damage boosting mods by itself, and so it is a much more efficient grid piece than Abyss Gaze.
Beyond Raw Damage
Aside from simply maximizing your raw damage, there are other important aspects to keep in mind when building a team. The importance of each of these secondary mods will vary drastically between situations, and your character picks will often inform you on which parts you may want to strengthen.
Weapons that have HP skills on them, on average, tend to have fewer offensive skills to compensate for it. As already stated, you only need enough HP and defense to not die, so it stands to reason that you want to minimize your focus on survivability.
It's often said that the best defense is a good offense, and this tends to be true in Granblue Fantasy as well. The fewer turns you take, the fewer opportunities the boss has to attack you back. My personal approach to HP in grids is to start with one that's as low HP and as high damage as possible, and if that isn't enough, swap around more defensive pieces until it works.
It's worth noting that great weapons you may already want to use (e.g.or ) that incidentally have HP skills on them are incredibly valuable because you do not have to "waste" a slot on bulking up since the weapons are already great for damage even without the HP.
Aside from just adding more health, the main avenue for increasing survivability is stacking Defense either via Garrison skillsBoost to DEF based on how low HP is (e.g. , ), Defense Awakening (e.g. , ) or weapons that flat out just provide defense (e.g. , ).
For teams that have consistent sources of healing, weapons with Healing Cap on them may also be considered such as Ultima Weapon with on it.or, for element-less fights, any
Charge Attack Builds
Teams focused on sending out as many charge attacks as possible can often get away with a smaller raw attack value if that space is used instead to improve the charge attack potential. Given that charge attacks tend to have high percentage multipliers on their damage already, less base support tends to be necessary. Each character has a different modifier for their charge attack, and the Main Character's modifier and extra skills on C.A. will depend on what mainhand weapon they have equipped.
One of the prime examples of this is Omega Waterwhich tends to run 3x . When looking at damage prediction, the water harp is somewhat weak with only a Medium Might skill and no other raw damage frames to help mix up mods. The true value of Zither comes from the fact that it can boost charge attack damage and damage cap a significant amount which isn't reflected in the damage predictor.
This means that teams dishing out super high amounts of charge attack damage may have really low auto attack damage because their grid isn't focused on that. Whether you want to use charge attack boosting weapons or not will ultimately depend on how many charge attacks your team does as opposed to normal attacks. If you're unsure, give it a test and see which works out better.
As a general pointer, the main reason Illustrious Weapons, and is, at the time of writing, a near-necessity for these builds.is by far the most popular pick for Charge Attack teams is the power of its Class Champion Weapon when socketed with . The massive amount of charge bar this weapon-emblem combo can put out for your entire party is unmatched outside of
Every instance of damage in Granblue Fantasy is governed by an associated Damage Cap, or just "cap" from here on out. Cap is, as the name implies, the highest possible damage you can deal in that instance. Cap exists to prevent ridiculous setups from reaching amounts of damage that would entirely break the game.
As already demonstrated byin the previous section, different types of weapons can affect cap for different types of damage. Zither improves cap for charge attacks whereas something like would improve cap for skill damage. Weapons such as affect general cap for all types of damage.
It's important to note that damage cap is not damage. It's simply the higher ceiling of damage the game allows you to deal. You still need to soup up the rest of the setup enough to reach it. Be careful when using weapons that provide cap at the expense of being otherwise weak such as. These weapons are only really usable if the rest of the grid can carry the damage high enough to reach the new cap. When in doubt, test it out!
Supplemental Damage, or Supp for short, is a skill found on several weapons which increases the amount of each instance of damage by a fixed value.
- If a is in the grid, all charge attacks from your party will have their damage increased by 400,000.
- If a is in the grid, all skill damage hits will have their damage increased by 100,000.
- If a is in the grid, all damage instances will have their damage increased by 50,000.
Supplemental Damage is added to the final damage after damage cap applies, and is often referred to as a type of "cap break."
Supp applies to every instance of damage, so a single Agonize would increase a 3,000,000 damage skill to 3,100,000 damage, but if that skill was 10 hits of 300,000 instead, you'd end up with 10 hits of 400,000 for a total of 4,000,000 instead. Because of this, the more hits of the type in question you deal, the higher the value Supp provides.
Regarding generic Supp weapons likeand the rest of the Pact series, these apply to every instance including those generated from or characters that deal multiple hits per attack such as and thus the more hits you expect to deal, the higher their value becomes. Conversely, if your team deals mostly in charge attack damage, they become less valuable.
It's very easy to fixate on the power of supplemental damage and forget that providing raw damage is just as important. For example, a weapon like in a weak grid with no other Daggers might actually result in your overall damage being lower!
Multiattack, or DATADouble Attack / Triple Attack is, in most situations, just a "good to have" mod. All other things being equal, you'd obviously prefer a weapon that increases your DATA over a weapon that doesn't, but in general, it's not something worth fussing about too heavily.
The one major exception to this are setups that need to reach Guaranteed Triple Attack ("GTA") on all characters for perfect consistency-- namely zero chain OTK setups in which DATA becomes premium.
Main and Friend Summon Picks
The choice of summons for a team tends to revolve around exactly what the team needs. By default, teams tend to use double Omega or Optimus summons ("double-sided"), but a lot of alternative options also exist for different setups. The most relevant "single-sided" setup for most of the game is usingas your main summon for burst situations as this allows for the Main Character to start the fight incredibly buffed and also for to land immediately.
Some unboosted setups are also popular such as doublefor 0b OTK or / for longer lasting burst.
When working with single-sided or unboosted setups, it's important to keep an eye on "secondary" mods - such as HP or Crit. Most sources of these tend to be tied to the summon, so you have to be careful not to be too fragile or not to accidentally take your Crit value to a level too low for it to be reliable.
Higher rank players tend to useLv.250 as an alternative pick to double-sided due to it freeing up the grid from needing as much HP. Lucifer setups don't go into crit as often due to the grid size restrictions. This isn't exactly relevant for most players, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
Putting it All Together
To put it all together, I'm going to show off a few grids that I've made for different types of content. These are my personal grids, so they will reflect my use cases and the tools I have access to, and as such may not be optimal, but I can at least provide the thought process behind them. Some of these may be outdated on purpose as I felt the older build had more of interest to talk about.
|Fool-Hanged Man's PerseveranceMassive boost to Earth allies' ATKModifier: EX. Restore 12% HP to Earth allies with 12 or more buffs at end of turn (Healing cap: 1200). Sephira Maxi-Earth20% boost to Earth allies' DMG Cap in Arcarum.
5% boost to Earth allies' DMG Cap. Earth's MajestySmall boost to Earth allies' ATK and max HP
|Axe Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many axes are equipped Ridge's PersistenceSupplement earth allies' DMG based on how high their HP is||Axe's WrathBoost to ATK, max HP, and multiattack rate based on how many axes are equipped Axe Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many axes are equipped|
|Labrys PlenumBig boost to axe-specialty allies' ATK and max HP / Big boost to axe-specialty allies' ATK based on how high HP is. Scandere Aggressio10% boost to one-foe attack DMG cap Fulgor ImpetusAmplifySeraphic modifier superior elemental DMG by 25%.||Lifetree's Insignia IIIBig boost to earth allies' ATK / Take 5% damageBased on max HP. every turn. Earth's MajestySmall boost to earth allies' ATK and max HP||Ridge's PersistenceSupplement earth allies' DMG based on how high their HP is Amber ArtsBoost to earth allies' skill DMG cap|
|Adjudicator's SupremacyMassive boost to earth allies' ATK Empyrean Adjudicator's SanctityWhen main weapon (MC only): 20% Bonus Earth DMG effect when not debuffed.||Concrio IgnisBoost to Humans' and Draphs' ATK and HP. Vita IgnisBoost to all allies' ATK and max HP based on number of Humans and Draphs in party.||Terra's Might IIIMassive boost to earth allies' ATK Mountain's StaminaMedium boost to earth allies' ATK based on how high HP is||Terra's MajestyBig boost to Earth allies' ATK and max HP γ Revelation15% boost to charge attack DMG cap Cunning TemptationAt start of battle: Various buffs|
to all allies / 30% hit to max HP
This setup wants to leverage's to give the first 3 members for a fast and low lockout 1b0c kill without the boss getting to attack. I used this exact build in the July 2023 guild war and it was 100% consistent.
For this to be possible, all 3 of the team members chosen must be very hard hitting with only auto attacks, thus we take:
- MC with , with five Axe/Spear weapons in the grid to activate Free-Flowing Style. This hits much harder than the alternative in double-spear .
- Split AutosEach hit is split in three, all three benefitting from Supplemental., who has guaranteed Triple Attack, and
- for her guaranteed Triple Attack and extra nuke after attacking.
As for the grid choices, we're roped into runningand Freyr Key on the opus, as we need to be able to guarantee Triple Attack on the MC. Accounting for the innate TA Apsaras has from its passives, using Bubs, we need to make up for 21% in the grid, and Freyr Key provides 25%. This extra TA could be given through other means, such as , and additional grid support, but Freyr was just easier.
Sincerequires MC to not be debuffed, we can't run here, which also renders Freyr Key better, as we don't have to rely on actually taking damage and that strategy being hamstrung by .
The grid is mostly built for us already. The five Axe/Spear requirement is steep, especially as I don't have, instead of opting for a simple Voltage-focused setup with and . The Militis axe serves double duty in that it helps provide additional Supplemental support to a team that will deal a ton of hits, so it likely would've made it in there either way.
At this point, my grid was already a hodgepodge of different axes with a complete lack of summon synergy, so I decided to lean into it and go for a fully unboosted setup with aor friend summon, so I added weapons with high firepower that don't require a boost - namely , and , with Ished also providing nice Supplemental.
One more axe was required, and thewas a choice between running an for the other two members plus a , but since I was already leaning into unboosted synergy, I opted for the Ultima. This might've been suboptimal but I didn't have the need to test it. The other build I've seen of this used four copies of with a single summon for a crit grid, but I didn't have access to four at the time.
It's been a while but to my knowledge, I didn't have to prototype this much, as it worked off the bat. Thewas just what first came to mind that I had on hand that had a mod otherwise not present in the grid in Normal Stamina for characters other than MC, but looking at it, it could've easily been a bunch of other different pieces. As the enemy doesn't attack, any concern for survivability is moot, and all that matters is that we land the kill consistently, which this did.
|Oceansoul's MightMedium boost to water allies' ATK Oceansoul's SentenceMedium boost to water allies' C.A. DMG and C.A. DMG cap||Oceansoul's MightMedium boost to water allies' ATK Oceansoul's SentenceMedium boost to water allies' C.A. DMG and C.A. DMG cap||Oceansoul's MightMedium boost to water allies' ATK Oceansoul's SentenceMedium boost to water allies' C.A. DMG and C.A. DMG cap|
|Blade's WrathBoost to ATK, max HP, and multiattack rate based on how many katanas are equipped. Snowfall's QuenchingSupplement Water allies' C.A. DMG based on how high their HP is. Snowfall's Ascendancy10% boost to Water allies' Special C.A. DMG Cap.||Blade's WrathBoost to ATK, max HP, and multiattack rate based on how many katanas are equipped. Snowfall's QuenchingSupplement Water allies' C.A. DMG based on how high their HP is. Snowfall's Ascendancy10% boost to Water allies' Special C.A. DMG Cap.||Blade's WrathBoost to ATK, max HP, and multiattack rate based on how many katanas are equipped. Snowfall's QuenchingSupplement Water allies' C.A. DMG based on how high their HP is. Snowfall's Ascendancy10% boost to Water allies' Special C.A. DMG Cap.|
|Empress-Justice's VirtueWhen main weapon: Massive boost to Water allies' ATKModifier: EX. Water allies restore 10% HP upon casting buff-removing skills (Healing cap: 3000). Sephira Maxi-Water20% boost to Water allies' DMG Cap in Arcarum.||Concrio VentusBoost to Humans' and Erunes' ATK and HP. Incursio VentusBoost to all allies' ATK based on number of Humans and Erunes in party.||Terra's MajestyBig boost to Earth allies' ATK and max HP γ Revelation15% boost to charge attack DMG cap Cunning TemptationAt start of battle: Various buffs
to all allies / 30% hit to max HP
|Gladius PlenumBig boost to sabre-specialty allies' ATK and max HP / Big boost to sabre-specialty allies' ATK based on how high HP is. Scandere Aggressio10% boost to one-foe attack DMG cap Fulgor ImpetusAmplifySeraphic modifier superior elemental DMG by 25%.|
This is the setup I used to farm Shiva and Atum weapons, it uses the and combo plus a call to do quick-ish blue chests. Much more optimized setups are very easily doable, but M2 and Ennead aren't exactly competitive, so I didn't feel the need to.
A quick glance at the character choices should be pretty simple, it's just three characters with Unworldly charge attack.backrow provides a little bit extra damage.
Grid wise, it's a pretty straightforward build that just wants to maximize the one-turn CA damage. Before I had access tothis was running four and just basic damage support, but with 'dinger, I felt I only needed three, especially since every character already has insanely high cap. Realistically I could probably pull it down to two but once again, I didn't feel the need to optimize further, as it already fulfilled my goals.
The triple hardcapA hard 6.6 million damage cap enforced by most raids with ease, so we want to max out on that, which caps at three.was a simple pick for the case at hand. While the weapon's Supplemental damage caps out at two copies, we're dealing with characters here whose charge attacks are so strong they'll hit
As you can see, this grid has an off-element Dark Opus in it, with Freyr Key. When you don't rely on counters or very tight margins to cap, Freyr Key is so powerful that it ends up stronger than an on-element opus for the turns its active. Myis just perpetually on Freyr and I use it across all my 45m Blue Chest grids for this reason. This is, in some senses of the word, fairly suboptimal, as I could probably squeeze out more damage by swapping my keys around as needed, but I personally enjoy the comfort of just having a Freyr key to fall back on.
As for the other weapon choices,has Unworldly CA, and that's essentially the only reason it's there. It's even at 0★. The Bahamut weapon didn't really have much thought behind it, I just needed something to quickly fill a space and the simulator made it look pretty good. When testing, it worked out fine so that's what I ended up with.
|Stormwyrm's StaminaMedium boost to wind allies' ATK based on how high HP is Stormwyrm's Verity IIBig boost to wind allies' critical hit rate||Stormwyrm's StaminaMedium boost to wind allies' ATK based on how high HP is Stormwyrm's Verity IIBig boost to wind allies' critical hit rate||Tranquility's PersistenceSupplement wind allies' DMG based on how high their HP is Whirlwind's ProgressionMedium boost to wind allies' wind ATK based on number of turns passed|
|Stormwyrm's StaminaMedium boost to wind allies' ATK based on how high HP is Stormwyrm's Verity IIBig boost to wind allies' critical hit rate||Stormwyrm's BetrayalBoost to wind allies' ATK for first 8 turns of battle Stormwyrm's TyrannyBig boost to wind allies' ATK / 10% cut to wind allies' max HP|
|Tranquility's FortitudeSupplement wind allies' DMG based on how low HP is Preemptive Gale BladeBoost to wind allies' ATK for first 8 turns of battle||Makhaira PlenumBig boost to katana-specialty allies' ATK and max HP / Big boost to katana-specialty allies' ATK based on how high HP is. Scandere Aggressio10% boost to one-foe attack DMG cap Fulgor ImpetusAmplifySeraphic modifier superior elemental DMG by 25%.||Terra's MajestyBig boost to Earth allies' ATK and max HP γ Revelation15% boost to charge attack DMG cap Cunning TemptationAt start of battle: Various buffs
to all allies / 30% hit to max HP
|Glimmer's PactSupplement light allies' DMG Harp Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many harps are equipped Glimmer's QuintessenceBoost to light allies' DMG cap|
This is a "generic" burst setup that I mainly used for Galleon blue chest farming. It uses the tried and true and combo with 150 support for big 1 turn damage.
The core of grid the are the four , but more optimized setups can probably just pump more raw power into her and use Echo on the Dark Opus instead. Once September 2023 Guild War comes, I'll replace this build with a tighter 131m/NM95 one, but for now this is the one I have., boosted by single as seen above. The choice to use a critical hit build came from Narmaya's
The off-element opus comes back, and is frankly not a perfect choice here. Narmaya absolutely requires as much power fed to her as possible to cap her assassin damage, so using an off-element weapon like this will substantially lower her output. Alas, I did not feel like spending a gold bar on another opus just for this, but I might do so for Guild War. In the same vein, the choice of using Ultima Katana here over other ultimas is very important to help pump her up.
The turn locked skills onand are choice here, as they live on their own "hidden" mod in the grid, and since we only take two turns at most with this, provide us incredible bang for our buck, and were the first thing I added right after.
When looking for some EX mod to add to the grid for mod mixing, theended up as a slam-dunk for the Voltage synergy with our six harps, but will probably fall off once the Opus is changed to be on-element. Lastly, the is just a clean bit of supplemental to help round it off. Usually this type of grid would prefer a damage cap weapon in the slot Mandjet currently takes, but it already tends to struggle capping as is, so it wouldn't provide much benefit overall. Once this is updated with an actual set in stone HP target, I suspect this will be one of the first changes.
|Ironflame's PrimacyMedium boost to fire allies' ATK / Medium boost to double attack rate for fire allies Ironflame's AegisSmall boost to fire allies' max HP||Ironflame's Stamina IIBig boost to fire allies' ATK based on how high HP is Ironflame's AegisSmall boost to fire allies' max HP||Ironflame's PrimacyMedium boost to fire allies' ATK / Medium boost to double attack rate for fire allies Ironflame's AegisSmall boost to fire allies' max HP|
|Wilnas's FirestormBoost to Fire allies' ATK0.1% per turn per skill level, max 25%Modifier: EX based on number of turns passed. Emerald BarrierWind DMG reduction to all allies. Ironflame's Majesty IIIBig boost to Fire allies' ATK and max HP||Ironflame's MightMedium boost to fire allies' ATK Ironflame's SentenceMedium boost to fire allies' C.A. DMG and C.A. DMG cap||Heliacal SovereignUnworldly boost to Fire allies' ATK. Astral Blow II10% Bonus Fire DMG effect to Fire allies' triple attacks.|
|Kengo's NatureWhen main weapon (MC only): 50% boost to charge bar gain. Kengo's Devilry||Inferno's Might IIIMassive boost to fire allies' ATK Hellfire's StaminaMedium boost to fire allies' ATK based on how high HP is||Blaze's CruxSupplement fire allies' C.A. DMG Arsus ExcelsiorBoost to fire allies' C.A. DMG cap||Makhaira PlenumBig boost to katana-specialty allies' ATK and max HP / Big boost to katana-specialty allies' ATK based on how high HP is. Scandere Aggressio10% boost to one-foe attack DMG cap Fulgor ImpetusAmplifySeraphic modifier superior elemental DMG by 25%.|
This is a very slow but reasonably consistent team to solo Ra in Full Auto, guard off.
's release was my initial inspiration for this setup, as she seems perfectly fit for the boss's constant CA omens and need for a sustain unit. Ra nearly forces you to play Kengo to kill it efficiently, so the and combo for the other two slots was a quick and dirty pick for the damage source. These two characters have excellent synergy, as Silva's enables Wilnas to use his Triple Attack buff much more often.
As for the grid, this one had to go through a lot of revision to get right. Earlier versions of the grid had Dark Opus in them, with more general damage support over sustain. As I tried it out against Ra's attacks, I quickly realized I needed to stack as much HP as possible, which is what brought in the entire top row of weapons as well as the.
The choices ofand were very straightforward, and were there from the start. A charge attack team would need charge attack support, and well, this is charge attack support.
Notice also the lack of ain the summon sheet. This is, once again, because the setup desperately needs the HP to survive Ra's attacks, so while some auto and skill damage does float around it would buff, it ended up being a liability upon testing. Lastly, in the backrow is just an insurance policy in case the boss's RNG decides to just target one of our units to death, so we have a strong tank to help push the kill.
|Purgatory's PactSupplement dark allies' DMG Axe Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many axes are equipped Purgatory's QuintessenceBoost to dark allies' DMG cap||Purgatory's PactSupplement dark allies' DMG Axe Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many axes are equipped Purgatory's QuintessenceBoost to dark allies' DMG cap||Oblivion's Might IIIMassive boost to dark allies' ATK Hatred's StaminaMedium boost to dark allies' ATK based on how high HP is|
|Oblivion's Verity IIBig boost to dark allies' critical hit rate Hatred's MajestyMedium boost to dark allies' ATK and max HP||Oblivion's Verity IIBig boost to dark allies' critical hit rate Hatred's MajestyMedium boost to dark allies' ATK and max HP||Oblivion's Might IIIMassive boost to dark allies' ATK Dark's TriumSmall boost to dark allies' multiattack rate|
|Mistfall's Majesty IIIBig boost to Dark allies' ATK and max HP β Revelation50% boost to skill DMG cap Deceitful FallacyBonus Elemental DMG effect / Sharp hit to charge bar gain||Oblivion's TemperingBig boost to dark allies' skill DMG cap / Big supplemental boost to skill DMG Dark's FandangoSmall boost to dark allies' ATK / Small boost to triple attack rate||Oblivion's TemperingBig boost to dark allies' skill DMG cap / Big supplemental boost to skill DMG Dark's FandangoSmall boost to dark allies' ATK / Small boost to triple attack rate||Luctor PlenumBig boost to melee-specialty allies' ATK and max HP / Big boost to melee-specialty allies' ATK based on how high HP is. Scandere Aggressio10% boost to one-foe attack DMG cap Fulgor ImpetusAmplifySeraphic modifier superior elemental DMG by 25%.|
This is a setup to farm Akasha. It is a somewhat older version of the build from before I had access to and , but I do find this one a bit more interesting to talk about due to all of the moving pieces.drops from
As for the grid weapon choices, 2xis non-negotiable in any optimized dark grid. As the build is on double , we can then bring in the 2x as an incredibly powerful compact core, as it provides a good bit of attack and HP (which is somewhat important to survive potential triggers from Akasha), as well as being an Axe, which synergizes wonderfully with the Voltage on our PnS.
As a very large portion of our damage comes from Fediel's auto activated multi hit nukes, we want to bring in a lot of skill damage supplemental to make sure those reach their full potential, hence the 2x. I believe in older versions, I was running instead, which is a bit weaker, but farmable. Once I took out Fediel for Ilsa, the skill damage supplemental fully came off in favor of , as just Bowman's small nukes weren't enough to make proper use of it, and Ilsa's helps us hit much harder to fulfil ES's cap up.
As for some interesting minor details, notice the usage ofin the Dark Opus. This is done to leverage the fact that it provides a medium nuke upon Charge Attack, just to squeeze a little bit more damage. Likewise, as the Dark Opus' charge attack provides , we take and in the backrow as they make up Dark's fairly lackluster crest support. Lastly, we also can use as a way to negate the boss's dispels which would otherwise ruin our buffs and kill our momentum (as a bit of trivia, Eresh builds instead make use of Freyr Key for this same purpose).
|Scarlet ConvergenceWhen at least 4 weapons of the same weapon group are equipped: Boost to fire allies' ATK, DEF, and DMG cap||Blaze's PactSupplement fire allies' DMG Axe Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many axes are equipped||Blaze's PactSupplement fire allies' DMG Axe Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many axes are equipped Blaze's QuintessenceBoost to fire allies' DMG cap|
|Ironflame's Stamina IIBig boost to fire allies' ATK based on how high HP is Ironflame's AegisSmall boost to fire allies' max HP||Ironflame's Celere IIMedium boost to fire allies' ATK and critical hit rate Ironflame's EnmitySmall boost to fire allies' ATK based on how low HP is||Ironflame's Celere IIMedium boost to fire allies' ATK and critical hit rate Ironflame's EnmitySmall boost to fire allies' ATK based on how low HP is|
|Ironflame's Majesty IIIBig boost to Fire allies' ATK and max HP β Revelation50% boost to skill DMG cap Deceitful FallacyBonus Elemental DMG effect / Sharp hit to charge bar gain||Cosmic Sword II50% boost to ATK and HP of equipped swords. Azure Sword's DisciplineBoost to DMG Cap based on how many sabres are equipped.||Ironflame's Celere IIMedium boost to fire allies' ATK and critical hit rate Ironflame's EnmitySmall boost to fire allies' ATK based on how low HP is|
|Hierophant-Sun's BlessingMassive boost to Fire allies' ATKModifier: EX.
Drain effect to Fire allies with multistrike
effects. Sephira Maxi-Fire20% boost to Fire allies' DMG Cap in Arcarum. Fire's MajestySmall boost to Fire allies' ATK and max HP
|Concrio IgnisBoost to Humans' and Draphs' ATK and HP. Vita IgnisBoost to all allies' ATK and max HP based on number of Humans and Draphs in party.||Gladius PlenumBig boost to sabre-specialty allies' ATK and max HP / Big boost to sabre-specialty allies' ATK based on how high HP is. Scandere Aggressio10% boost to one-foe attack DMG cap Fulgor ImpetusAmplifySeraphic modifier superior elemental DMG by 25%.|
This team is designed to farm Seofon by getting 4 million honors for Blue Chest as fast as possible, while still being able to help with the post 10% cleanup phase. At the time of writing, I have farmed 10 4★ with this (lord help me).and from
This one will be slightly different, as it's an adapted version of a similar setup from quwatoro. My version is a bit different, so I'll start with trying to "reverse-engineer" quwatoro's original design, and then explain my changes.
The team composition is pretty much just the three best characters Fire has access to right now. For nearly all Seofon setups,is straight up required, and the and combo is the fastest damage you can currently pull off. For a raid without any stopgaps other than high damage checks, this is basically all we need.
Similarly to the previously shown Dark Akasha setup, this leveragesto provide to the entire team. I believe the choice of using instead of the more common for this raid comes from the need to compensate for Omega's lower firepower and damage cap with . One of the two had to be chosen for access to either way.
Watching the video, you can tell that the damage cap requirement is fairly tight. The greatest choke point is the omen break on the third turn without using, and enough cap is required to hit it - hence the need for a 4★ and the inclusion of the .
At this point, we need to fulfil's "4 weapons of the same type" requirement to turn it on. I assume quwatoro here decided to take a bread and butter crit grid with , as AES fulfils a triple purpose for this:
- They're all Swords, so they turn on LoF, and then allow for additional weapon-type synergy, such as theseen.
- With's boost, they fully cap crit, and bring in a bit of enmity too which helps us hit through the boss's constant onslaught of teamwide attacks.
- They have an abnormally high base HP value, much higher than most other weapons, even high end ones. Once again, this creates great synergy with, which multiplies that HP even higher.
I'm not exactly sure what informed the 5th AES in here, but I can only assume it's for more raw HP, as his team goes down into the red fairly often during the video.
This leaves us with the few extra picks on the grid:
- was already mostly explained previously, but since we're so in need of damage cap, it's perfectly synergistic with the rest of the setup
- provides great mod mixing, in that we don't have Omega Stamina yet, and also additional HP to help us survive
- is a great pick for the Additional Weapons slot due to the sheer amount of swords we already have, plus it'll be boosted by the Cosmic
- for boosting up Wilnas so he can cap when under his assassin buff
With that said, let's now look at my changes.
The first thing you'll notice is that my grid has access to the full 13 slots. The original one was made before that was available. My immediate pick for filling the final slot was, as the effect it provides is fantastic for sustain against the boss's high damage, especially in rooms where not much debuff support from other players is available.
As I had access to a second, I wanted to incorporate that into the grid. When building this, I felt like the 5th AES was the weakest link in the original build, so that's what I chose to swap out in the main grid. Having two CS in the grid muddied up the Voltage skill a bit, to the point where the Sword of Pallas Militis in the Additional Slots was proving to be less important.
I chose to take ainto the Militis slot instead, which provided some much needed Normal Might mod that the grid was otherwise lacking, and some additional HP to make up for the removed AES. Another potential option would've been , but as mine is not built, I don't know if it would be ideal.
At this point, my grid looked exactly as shown above, but with both CS at 0★, and an Ultima Axe instead of the. After some attempts at the raid, I noticed that more often than not, I was not hitting the 77,777,777 Damage requirement on turn 3, and just failing the entire rotation because of it. To compensate for this, I tried a raid without reloading to examine where the damage was lacking, and made the choice to swap out Ultima Axe for Ultima Sword, in order to help Percival and Michael hit a bit more to round off the damage, as it looked like Wilnas could hit just fine being ringed and in Attack Awakening.
Uncapping one of the CS to 4★ fulfil the damage cap was required as well it seemed, but after that test was done, as long asis at 7 or higher, I've yet to fail the turn 3 omen.
My last change was bringing in , as when playing in raids full of other Vikings/Berserkers, the boss was never fully debuffed in Attack Down, which made my ability to consistently help with the 10% cleanup inconsistent. The extra potion helped fill that gap, and I was in my merry way farming swords for the next month.to the backrow for an additional Blue Potion through
|Zion's Celere IIBig boost to light allies' ATK and critical hit rate Light's GraceSmall boost to light allies' max HP and debuff resistance||Glimmer's PactSupplement light allies' DMG Harp Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many harps are equipped Glimmer's QuintessenceBoost to light allies' DMG cap||Glimmer's PactSupplement light allies' DMG Harp Voltage IIBoost to ATK based on how many harps are equipped Glimmer's QuintessenceBoost to light allies' DMG cap|
|Zion's Might IIIMassive boost to light allies' ATK Light's TriumSmall boost to light allies' multiattack rate||Zion's TemperingBig boost to light allies' skill DMG cap / Big supplemental boost to skill DMG Light's FandangoSmall boost to light allies' ATK / Small boost to triple attack rate||Golden VitalityBoost to light allies' ATK, DEF, and DMG cap based on their max HP Light's MajestySmall boost to light allies' ATK and max HP|
|Zion's Celere IIBig boost to light allies' ATK and critical hit rate Light's GraceSmall boost to light allies' max HP and debuff resistance||Zion's MajestyBig boost to Light allies' ATK and max HP β Revelation50% boost to skill DMG cap Zion's StaminaBig boost to Light allies' ATK based on how high HP is||Zion's GarrisonBig boost to light allies' DEF based on how low HP is Light's TemperingSmall boost to light allies' skill DMG cap / Small supplemental boost to skill DMG||Zion's GarrisonBig boost to light allies' DEF based on how low HP is Light's TemperingSmall boost to light allies' skill DMG cap / Small supplemental boost to skill DMG|
|Concrio VentusBoost to Humans' and Erunes' ATK and HP. Incursio VentusBoost to all allies' ATK based on number of Humans and Erunes in party.||Chariot-Star's WishMassive boost to Light allies' ATKModifier: EX. 20% Bonus Light DMG effect to Light allies with . Sephira Maxi-Light20% boost to Light allies' DMG Cap in Arcarum. Light's MajestySmall boost to Light allies' ATK and max HP||Knightcode's Might IIBig boost to light allies' ATK Sephira Light-TekMassive boost to light allies' critical hit rate in Arcarum|
I use this team for running Super Ultimate Bahamut with my crew when our better Light player isn't available. My preferred role for that raid is DPS with Dark, but someone does need to take care of the stacks, so this one get brought in for those situations.
The core idea behind this team is using's to pass to , so that his automatically activates twice every turn.
Once Lu Woh is out,will for him for the entire rest of the fight and guard every turn, using . This setup ensures Lu Woh will never get hit, thus never losing any stacks, and deliver extremely high damage via his automatic nukes. This is a variation on the build talked about in the Tier List section above.
The core of this grid is just a quintessential Light core, with 2xand 2x for high supplemental, as well as full crit and a lot of HP to survive the encounter. This setup does not charge attack after the initial few turns, so mainhand Ark was just coincidental and not put there for the Echo.
Since nearly all our damage will come from multi hit skills, we want to cap that supplemental frame. The original version of this grid ran 2x two SymmetriaWhen boosted, each Rinne provides 100k supplemental, and each Symmetria provides 50k, thus adding up to the full 200k cap in the end..for this purpose, as well as and to have enough HP and defense to deal with the boss's attacks. Since the release of , I've compressed down those three weapons down to just
The rest of the grid is fairly flexible. I had my Dark Opus on Stamina, which led to me choosing ProgressionProgression on Light DO is often used for a SUBHL final phase burst strategy., I'd consider switching an Eden into the Gamba slot.over a conventional damage choice . This was the case in the original grid too. An was then brought in after the Symmetria switch freed up a slot as just a very strong general all rounder. If I switched out the opus skill to, say,
My original intended Symmetria configuration was double Defense, but after Fury was added to the grid, I noticed I was capping my HP mod at 400% with just one, so one of them was changed to Attack, which created the current configuration.
Thank you for reading this far. I hope the contents of this guide helped you better understand how grid building works in this game.
I made this guide because I see a lot of Rank 200 or higher players who just copy grids from other people without any knowledge of how they work or how to make tweaks in case a need arises. It's important to understand that the grid building process isn't exactly elegant. You have to try out different things until you land on one that works how you want it to-- especially when you're missing components of setups you were inspired by.
I hope the examples provided help show where different types of builds can be put to use, and how building with a target in mind influences your choices. I also hope that the guide dispelled both the myth that you can just use a general grid, and the myth that you must always play with fully optimized setups. Ultimately, I believe knowing that makes grids tick is fundamental to the iterative style of buildcraft in this game, so with the knowledge you gained here, get out, and get building!
If you have any questions, or want to suggest an improvement, you can get in contact with me at the GBF Wiki Discord Server - my Discord username being vazkii.
Massive thank you to:
- Mettie, avalira, jedmund, and No Laifu for early proofreading and structural feedback that informed the overall design of the guide.
- tapp, nemulis, and Tabibito/Belú for more specific feedback towards the later stages of writing and catching important missing info.
- Umikin for providing, and teaching me how to use the team templates.
- Julinya for running through the guide in an editing pass to fix my grammar
July 29, 2023
- Added the explanations to the demo grids (finally!!)
- Updated some of the chibi icons for more diversity
- Made Awakening references prettier
- Updated conclusion section a bit
- Improved several bits of wording around the place
- Fixed Cagliostro (Dark) being displayed in the Akasha example instead of Cagliostro (Halloween)
- Removed WIP indicators
July 14, 2023
- Renamed to Theoretical Grid Building Guide
- Moved HP info up to "There is no General Content"
- Added a note on drop rate up options for Gold Chest raids
- Added info on Kaneshige to the CA section
- Added info on defense and heal cap weapons to the survivability section
- Added note on weapons that bring multiple mods
- Added info on Bubs-attack OTK
- Added a link to the DPM292 Lu Woh SUBHL setup
- Fixed some minor issues around the place
July 12, 2023
- Finished the first full draft of the main guide, excluding the examples. Editing and more feedback still pending...