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Anka453 (talkcontribs)

Sorry for that mess haha, all should be in order now. Should've read the template page properly before I jumped into editing ;;;

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

Eh, as long as it gets corrected, I don't really care. I'm not even anyhow in the position to be handling such stuff, definitely not anymore. Back to topic, if you want to see which chars are missing are missing the quotes, check out this collection tracker. Just remember to keep owned to "no". It's the, mostly, updated version of link on my profile. I've done all SSRs I had so the number of SRs/Rs should get smaller later when I find some time before PG ends. (talkcontribs)

Regarding the values I added yesterday, while it was by no mean complete or well organized, I believe showing some values would help the reader to get a general idea of what the summon does.

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

I think that simply listing possible endurance recovery values without the examples, similarly to info on Verona Heart page, would be better. They're random after all. (talkcontribs)

Well, they are not really random, but yeah, that would be nice.

Please stop communicating by proxy on discord

AdlaiT (talkcontribs)

Please stop communicating by proxy on Discord. Discord is not and has never been a requirement to contribute to this wiki, but if you want to communicate to other users without it, then create a project page or use wiki discussion pages.

You have a long, documented history of being passive aggressive and toxic. What you're doing now is another one of those cases and I have little tolerance for it.

--AdlaiT (talk) - Wiki Admin 18:36, 14 May 2020 (CEST)

Cinnamon18 (talkcontribs)

Hi! I made an edit to S.Narmaya's page which your reverted. Sorry for the low quality edit! Never contributed to a wiki before, not even sure if this the best way to message you :p

You made the revert because I didn't source the edit. I collected the data myself. Is this an acceptable source? What sort of information should I provide as support? Party / grid / summon setup? Video recordings? The data is collected in the spreadsheet linked below, n=250, observed avg = 0.264

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

Sample size of 250 with average of 26,4% gives MoE of ~4,59% so it'd be something between 21,81% and 30,99%. If final value is a multiplicative of 5% then it's either 25% or 30%. That sheet you linked would be a good source but you need some more samples.
Like 500 more should do it, I guess. For reference, for my Veight tests I needed over 1,5k samples for both his buffs.

Cinnamon18 (talkcontribs)

okay thanks! i was having trouble figuring out the appropriate stats to run but i get it now, ty.

Summary by Hakazumi

How about praising me, for a change of pace? If I ever received thanks from you, it'd have to be long time ago.

AdlaiT (talkcontribs)

Haka, there has never been a rule where people can't edit pages during a maintenance. I don't know where you got this from. Again, you do not have authority over these types of things.

Unfortunately, because this is not the first time that this has been an issue with you, I will have to start giving you infractions.

--AdlaiT (talk) - Wiki Admin 19:33, 23 March 2020 (CET)

Characters with Sub Ally Support Skills

Kirostyle (talkcontribs)

Hello there! I made a page compiling Characters with Sub Ally Support Skills because the auto-generated category page one on the wiki was not detailed enough. It only lists the characters and not the skills themselves for people to easily look through. It is also missing some sorting information. It keeps re-merging with the auto-generated category page though. I wanted to see if there was a way my page could be used to replace that one. Thanks!

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

The content of the pages has been removed because description contained what linked support skills already had inside, except that since it was written separately, it wouldn't update alongside info already on character's page. That could in turn sooner or later cause information discrepancy.
I also don't think that evokers / crest sort options were necessary. I wouldn't mind if they were included after others agreed to them but it doesn't look like you previously asked any of the admins how should that page look like.
I also agree that it'd be nice if the category page was a bit more detailed and included the skill category is meant to reference but if you wanted to work on it anyhow, you should ask before for any opinions etc.

Kirostyle (talkcontribs)

I would have directly linked the descriptions myself, but I did not know what the coding looked like for that and was hoping for someone else with the knowledge to do so. That would also not include the notes, however. That is why some of the descriptions were touched up, especially for passives that contain both frontline and backline components. I understand that it would not automatically update, but the category page was also incorrect as well because people have not been tagging all the characters with backline passives anyways, which I then went to subsequently fix a few. It would be nice if that page could display the text for the passives too, but some characters have their backline passive as skill 1 or skill 2, so it probably wouldn't be able to sort it that way right now.

Other skill resource pages also do not automatically update, such as the pages for Veil, Dispel, Clear, etc. and yet they are valuable pages for compiling information. (I have been updating them with missing characters lately.) My page also includes notes and lets people easily skim through support skills for easy reference, especially around Guild Wars and Proving Grounds. I spent a couple hours making this for my crew and others. I ask that you reconsider.

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

You already linked the skills via CharacterSupportSkill template.

The difference between other mentioned pages and support skill page is that the latter is a category page. It will include more characters if the category is added to the character page. In the best case scenario, it'd also add the newly added character's support skill to the table. Whatever that is possible or not with the currently available tools is not something I know.

And it is not me who you should be asking for anything, I recommend you join the wiki discord and address this issue there (or alternatively use wiki's talk pages to ask one of the admins - User_talk:AdlaiT, but mind that getting a reply this way might take longer).
Another option would be to put it on your userpage User:Kirostyle. Then you'd be free to create it exactly how you want.

Kirostyle (talkcontribs)

Linking them with the support skills template does not make it able to be CTRl+F'd and requires you to scroll over each one individually, which is inconvenient. That is why I chose to make a separate column.

Sorry, I was under the assumption you were an admin. I did not know there was a Wiki discord for this. I have created pages in the past without any troubles, so I assumed that it would be fine. I will look into this. Thank you.

AdlaiT (talkcontribs)

I want to be very clear that Hakazumi is not a wiki admin nor a wiki moderator. They should not have removed the contents the page since they are not in any position of authority to decide either way.

--AdlaiT (talk) - Wiki Admin 09:33, 12 January 2020 (CET)

Darion (talkcontribs)
Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

Currently? None.
There isn't a page that stores story-only characters arts, with or without all expressions included. (Special Valentine/White Day images excluded.)

Darion (talkcontribs)

Then what is meant by "Story Art" some characters? Because it should be at full height? And where does the expressions when many arts have them in game

AdlaiT (talkcontribs)

Art on the character page is for when it's selectable from the Pose screen. Pengy (Event) cannot select that from her Pose screen.

Also, the image you uploaded is incorrectly named. "zoom" type images are generally full-body art with 960x800 pixel dimensions. I also checked the CDN and it doesn't exist.

We currently do not have pages for cutscene art/expressions.

--AdlaiT (talk) - Wiki Admin 20:41, 15 February 2020 (CET) (talkcontribs)

I get it now. Thanks (talkcontribs)
Dkndy (talkcontribs)

The multiple quotation marks were in the Japanese source; I think they're meant to emphasize that multiple people are saying the same thing. I don't know, Japanese orthography is weird.

Anyway, I had finished the translation, but then the wiki ate it. Too angry about losing an hour and a half of work to redo it right now, but for when I do: some of the lines differ depending on the pose selected-- so if the party portrait is of Mina, she'll say her line, etc. I noted this in the notes section-- "If Mina's pose is selected," or something like that. Yes/no?
Also, the way they do normal attacks is weird. I'll just follow the JP wiki's format, and then I'll leave it to you to decide what looks best.

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

On fandom, if you're editing an outdated version of a page and try to process with an edit, you are showed difference between your edit and the new version of the page. Mediawiki should have had something like that too, though it never happened to me so I can't confirm. Next time it happens, try to scroll down the page and see if there's any new window like that. I also recommend that you do what other people do already aka save your edit to notepad or somewhere else so that it won't get lost.

As for formatting:
- one quotation mark should be used at max.
- for the portrait thing, replace "pose" with "battle pose", otherwise it's ok for now.
I'll look into it later if necessary.

Fuchs (talkcontribs)

Hi, i've just uploaded 3 images, is there any way to delete one or them all ? PS : I've tried to search for it, it tell me to find images log and i can't seem to find it

Hakazumi (talkcontribs)

Normal users can't delete images, that'd be too dangerous for the wiki.
Fastest way to get them removed would be to join wiki server and ask the admins to delete them.

Fuchs (talkcontribs)

I see, tyvm