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Just wanna make sure about elemental debuffs

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JeriKnight (talkcontribs)

Do they work with normal atk and def down? To them same cap as well? So if you can already cap atk down and def down, ele debuffs don't actually help unless the boss is resistant against normal atk down and def down?

PetriW (talkcontribs)

Afaik it is as follows:

DEF Down, DEF Down (Stackable) & Element DEF Down together stack up to 50%. Only Forfeit can pass the 50% cap.

ATK Down & ATK Down (Stackable) cap at 50% total (Again Forfeit can pass cap). Element ATK Down goes on a separate multiplier. This means 50% ATK Down & 20% Element ATK Down would be: 1 * (1 - 0.5) * (1 - 0.2) = 0.4, aka 60% total ATK Down.

I have a temporary translation of the damage formula but it is not complete: https://gbf.wiki/User:PetriW/Damage_Formula

JeriKnight (talkcontribs)

Ah I see, so def is a solid cap of 50% with only forfeit being able to break cap. But how does forfeit work? Does it go on the same multiplier as default? Unique? (Probably not elemental multiplier I would imagine.) Maybe even flat down?-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Would it be (for def): 1 * (1 - 0.5) * (1 - 0.1) = 0.45 (Unique) or 1 * (1 - 0.5 - 0.1) = 0.4 (Normal Multiplier)


and for atk (with 20% element atk down):

1 * (1 - 0.5) * (1 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.2) = 0.36 (Unique) or 1 * (1 - 0.5 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.2) = 0.32 (Normal Multiplier) or 1 * (1 - 0.5) * (1 - 0.2 - 0.1) = 0.35 (Elemental Multiplier?) or ((1 * (1 - 0.5) * (1 - 0.2)) - 0.1) = 0.3 (flat -0.1)


I don't know how to leave a breakline :/

PetriW (talkcontribs)

According to Gins translation DEF Down Forfeit works like this:

((1 + DEF Up - (DEF Down + Ele DEF Down ※ Cap -50%)) - Forfeit)

Afaik ATK Down Forfeit is all in this part:

× { 1 - ATK Down Debuff }

Note that Gins translation is probably correct on DEF Down while mine was from an incorrect gbf-wiki formula.

110.138.186.60 (talkcontribs)

please add thiss information to the wiki page it's crucial...

114.124.245.102 (talkcontribs)

Thank you for the edit

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